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It’s The Artie Talkin’ - DIMP interviews Artie Lange
By Larry Phillips

Artie Lange has had an interesting career and an interesting life.  Born in 1967 and raised in Union Township, New Jersey, he grew up in a blue collar town with blue collar parents.  After an accident crippled and eventually killed his father, Lange decided that instead of being the funniest guy down at the docks, he would try his hand at the New York comedy scene. 

Slowly building his reputation in stand-up and improv, Artie landed a role as a founding cast member of Fox’s new show, Mad TV.  For many, Lange was the break-out star of the show, bringing to the screen his own lovable, average guy  persona mixed with more than a little bit of John Belushi’s ghost.

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Extreme fame is sometimes a dangerous thing for a funny guy with a humble background.  Like his hero Belushi and his contemporary Chris Farley, Lange found himself embroiled in the dangerous downward spiral of substance abuse.  That, combined with rapid weight gain and a battle with depression, led Artie to stints in rehab, effectively halting his emerging star power. 

Rescued from near obscurity by Saturday Night Live alum Norm MacDonald, Lange teamed up with Norm for the cult comedy Dirty Work and the ABC sitcom The Norm Show.  Lange continued to battle his demons although he was working steadily.  In addition to acting as the replacement for the late Chris Farley in another David Spade buddy comedy, Lost & Found, Lange has appeared in several high profile films, such as The Bachelor, Mystery Men, Boat Trip, Old School, and Elf.  Artie will also appear in an episode of next season’s HBO show Entourage, has a semi-recurring role on FX’s Rescue Me, has been the highlight of Comedy’s Central’s roasts of Hugh Hefner and William Shatner, and sells out stand-up shows around the country (the latest set has been preserved in his current DVD It’s The Whiskey Talkin’.)

The one move that has really set Lange’s star ablaze brighter than ever before has been his permanent place as a member of The Howard Stern Show.  Once nationally syndicated in radio markets all over the US, The Howard Stern Show is now on Sirius Satellite Radio broadcasting to the entirety of the United States and Canada. 

Lange is currently out promoting his upcoming film Artie Lange’s Beer League, in which he stars, co-wrote and produced. 

On the day of Artie’s interview with DVD In My Pants, he had just completed a week that proves the entertainment industry isn’t for the faint of heart.  Artie and The Howard Stern Show goes on the air live at 6:00 AM Monday through Friday, with the average broadcast lasting a little over five hours.  After that Artie usually seems to pop up on a number of different Sirius shows that broadcast after the Stern Show on Howard 100 and Howard 101.  On Thursday, as soon as the New York broadcast ended, Artie left for Philadelphia for a gig and to do press for Beer League.  He returned to New York to do the Stern Show for Friday.  It’s currently 5:30 in the afternoon in a downtown Cleveland Ohio Marriott hotel lounge, and in front on me is one Artie Lange.  He is committed to doing press for the rest of the afternoon and then he has a DVD signing in the morning here in Cleveland, as well as a sold-out show to perform that evening here.

In person, Lange is as genial, kind, and engaging as he seems he would be.  No matter his film and television career and being an integral part of what is arguably the most influential radio comedy show on the air today, he seems no different than any normal, blue collar guy you would find at your local watering hole.  Except that this guy just happens to be the funniest guy in the room, no matter the room he is in.

I express my amazement that Lange is not only here, but welcoming and pretty damn cool.  Although obviously tired, Lange makes great conversation and is simply laugh-out-loud funny.  Nevertheless, Artie looks like a man who has been a punching bag for the past week.  With a week’s worth of salt-and-pepper stubble, messed hair, a Yankee’s t-shirt, and a cup of hot coffee (booze free, although I pound through a couple of cocktails during the interview,) Artie settles in to chat with DVD In My Pants.


: Artie how has life on the Stern Show, and especially its hours, been working out for someone, as a stand-up comic, whose schedule used to be exactly the opposite?

Artie Lange: The only part of the job that feels like work is getting up early. The rest is like being in third grade throwing spitballs all day. That early schedule dominates your life.  Then I go weekends and I got to do a turnaround.  Now I am nocturnal for the weekend, then Monday I have to get back to it.  Probably to tell you the truth, I will be dead soon if I don’t stop this. (laughing) 

An awful lot of the banter on the Stern Show involves the cast busting one another’s chops.  Artie, due to his self-effacing sense of humor and comments like the one above, mostly gets hit regarding his weight, drinking, smoking, eating, and general lack of good health. 

: How much of that really gets under your skin?

Artie Lange: Some days, you’re just in the mood where nothing can fuck with you.  Some days, you’re not in the mood to hear anything. You get angry.  Howard’s good at pushing those buttons.  But everybody gets it. It’s fun dishing it out, but if you dish it out you have to take it.  If you can’t take you should really leave the show.  Some comics said when I got the gig, being funny is just one of the qualifications. You’ve got to have a thick skin.  There are some comics who can’t deal with this ball breaking; they’d hit someone with a bat.  I’ve had a lot of training in getting insulted over the years.  I’m fine with it.  But some days you’re not into it, you could lose it. 

: Yeah, sometimes those feelings tend to bleed out over the air.

Artie Lange: Well everybody does… some days, like Fred (Norris) can’t deal. Plus the fact it’s so early and the crankiness, hell I’ve wanted to strangle everybody on the show. Stuttering John (Melendez -- current announcer for The Tonight Show With Jay Leno) was the biggest.  He would get to you, he could get under your skin and I mean I almost punched him in the face on the air, several times.

John got under everyone’s skin…he’s a good guy, a friend of mine, yeah I love John, I did the road with him for awhile…I still talk to him and I wish him the best. He’s good, he’s got a great family, his wife’s awesome…but John can get under your skin, especially if you’re workin’ with him all week, and then you do the road with him. You’re in some motel in Cincinnati after a shitty gig and you have to share a room for whatever reason…John comes up with one of them famous awful farts that makes you wanna like, you know, put a gas mask on…it’s like “what’s stopping me from throwing you out a window right now?!?” (laughing)

Artie, like everyone else on the Stern show, seems to have no problem sharing the most intimate of details about his life.  Artie has told stories of some of the awful things that have happened to him and that he has done, stories most people would tend to forget ever happened, usually resulting in some of the show’s funniest moments. 

: Has Howard (Stern) or anyone has ever declared something “off limits” on the air.

Artie Lange: You don’t know, and Howard never had a conversation with me like that either. It’s so weird…everyone asked me when I got the gig “did he sit you down and go ‘don’t talk about it?’” It’s never happened; he just lets stuff get worked out on the air. He really likes doing it…he likes walking that line. Somebody says something on the air he doesn’t like, he’ll just, you know, push the button, and then we have a little delay now in case someone says something and then you have to know not to ever bring it up again. He just lets you figure it out for yourself.

To certain people, you know, certain actors, there are rumors about them being gay, and some people are very litigious with that. Like Tom Cruise sues everybody, so Howard is very conscious of that. He’s a high profile guy and one of the first jokes I told when I got the job on the air, it’s still one of my favorite jokes ever told on the air, but Howard had to hit the button.  He (Cruise) was married to Nicole Kidman, and I said “Nicole Kidman…Australian for beard;” obviously implying Tom Cruise was gay, and he (Howard) laughed but he hit the button and afterwards he said I can’t have any inference…or else he’ll sue us, and I said “you know, okay”… you live and you learn. But he never sat me down off the air and said “don’t do it” he let me find out on the air.

: So, there are no secrets?  The cast has nothing to hide?

Artie Lange:   Well, I mean, the truth is, there are. I mean, obviously there’s things in our personal lives that just aren’t brought up on the air… but we do bring up a ton of shit more than the average people do. The show is about our life and I’ve offered up stories and it’s like therapy.  Afterwards I’m walking up Sixth Avenue in a daze like “what did I just say?!?” And my uncles and aunts and stuff are hearing stories for the first time; that I shit my pants in a gas station, they never heard it before I was on the radio. It took awhile to get that chemistry too…they (Howard, Fred, Robin) were already like a jazz band. For me it took awhile to learn like, when your solo is, when you come in and talk…he (Howard) hates when you talk over people.  I figured it out now and it’s a good on air team. The truth is, I wouldn’t leave to do another radio show. I’m on the New York Yankees of radio, why go to the Devil Rays? If I left it would be for television or a movie career.

: Has that general openness about your life affected your career outside of the show?

Artie Lange: Yeah well first of all, I made a conscious decision when I got on the show that I had all of these fucked up loser stories and, I said in the vein of Richard Pryor, I’m going to try and be funny by telling them on the air in a funny way. I might as well turn a negative into a positive.  My agent says, if you do that, you might lose a chance for some endorsements. I made a conscious decision to say screw it, and I’ll try to be funny in an honest way, and hope the money would come in a different way. The first three months I was on the show, 7/11 came up with a campaign…they were putting in a new hotdog machine, and they wanted me to be the new hotdog guy. Wearing a goofy 7/11 outfit, it was like total sellout. (laughing)  For three days of work, $500,000. My agent said, it’s on the table man, ready for you to sign; and I was like “fuck it, that’s money I can’t turn down.” So a day before I actually signed the contract, the CEO, head muckity-muck of 7/11 turns on the Stern show and they said, “this is the guy we’re going with!  Listen to him he’s funny.”  So he puts it on his way to work in the back of the limo or whatever, and he’s listening to me tell this story about getting thrown off of MadTV for possession of cocaine and swinging at a cop, and the guy’s jawed dropped and he called the people under him and said “What, are you fuckin’ crazy? This guy is gonna be our spokesperson and he was in jail for five days?!?  Immediately fire him.” It was a funny story, I got a lot of calls saying it was funny as hell, but I lost 500 g’s for three days of work…they fired me. My agent called me and said, “You just blew it.” To tell you the truth I’d rather be the guy telling a funny edgy story than the “hotdog guy” at 7/11, I really would.

Historically, films and television shows have a difficult time getting insurance for actors who have had “troubles” in their recent past, affecting their ability to be cast or getting a project made. 

: Are you in one of those “Robert Downey Jr. situations?”.

Artie Lange: Um, it’s not as bad as him yet, like I haven’t lost…obviously this movie (Artie Lange’s Beer League) was a big deal… independent movie guys putting up money, it was a big part of this hedge fund, it all depends on me showing up everyday. And I just had a nervous breakdown on the air (laughing)…so the guys signing the checks were like, “What am I going to do?” And there were insurance issues, so I sat them down and guaranteed, “Guys, the month it takes to do this, I can get through it, I’ll do it, I promise you.” And they paid a bigger premium and insured me and I got through it. I’ve lost actual life insurance in real life because of these deathwatch things and stories I tell. It hasn’t affected me with a gig yet… Entourage, stuff like that. Hollywood is very forgiving, man. They have to be. If they didn’t work with every fucked up druggie in Hollywood, there would be no movies.

Obviously your career has been a bit of a roller coaster.  What moments do you consider those that you are proud of?

Artie Lange: Well probably, everything I’ve done has things I’ve been proud of.  Like, MadTV might come out with the “Best Of” me, which is really flattering. In the two years I was on it, there are probably 10 or 11 sketches that I was actually proud of, and a couple of Norm Show episodes, Dirty Work I think is funny, but I haven’t had a stellar, like critically acclaimed career. If I had to pick one thing it’s probably the work on the Stern show for five years.  If I had to put something in a time capsule, it would probably be my funniest moments on the show and what it’s allowed me to do. It’s The Whiskey Talkin', my stand-up DVD, I couldn’t have done that on Comedy Central…. It’s uncensored. I’m proud of it because that’s me, in a club, 12 at night, a couple of drinks in me, needing a shave, messed up hair, with a jacket I was just sleeping on. Comedy the way I want to do it. Because of Stern, I was able to get a big distribution deal and make a lot of money from it, and be edgy and not censor myself. So this (Artie Lange’s Beer League) is the movie version of that DVD. It’s tough to put radio shows in time capsules so it’s Beer League and It’s The Whiskey Talkin’.   Beer League, I think, is the best and funniest movie I’ve been in…and I’m very proud of it.

: What about your upcoming, sold-out show at the legendary Carnegie Hall?

Artie Lange: That’s unreal…that’s something my mother was actually proud of.  It’s rare that she’s proud of something I do…it’s like “whoa that’s amazing”…selling it out in two hours, its surreal to me. That’s going to be unbelievable.  That was a very big milestone.

: With Beer League coming out this week, what about the similarly titled Beer Fest, released a few weeks ago?

Artie Lange: What happened was it was renamed “Artie Lange’s” Beer League after Beer Fest came out. I didn’t want that, it’s sort of embarrassing.  This distributor bought the movie and they can mark it whatever they want.  So they said, we will add your name in front of it to counteract the Beer Fest. I am fans of those Broken Lizard guys (creators of Beer Fest).  While I haven’t seen Beer Fest, I think Super Troopers is real funny.  So I wished them luck.  It came out a few weeks before us so I think it has already died down, so hopefully it won’t hurt us.  It’s funny you mention that.  It’s the entire reason it’s Artie Lange’s Beer League

: What would you call the movie if it were up to you?

Artie Lange: Just Beer League, plain.  We always loved that title.  That’s what we called these leagues, when I played in these drunken leagues in Jersey.  It wasn’t officially called that, but you would say “that’s a beer league.” We loved that title.  If I had my druthers, I would take “Artie Lange” out of the title. For a classier route we should’ve went with Jessica Lange’s Beer League.  (laughs) Fuck it, use her name. 

: For a smaller-budget film, you’ve got a great cast.  Is there anyone that you wanted but couldn’t get?

Artie Lange: Well, the Ralph Macchio part, he ended up being amazing.  He is a great voice of reason, like in My Cousin Vinny.  He’s a great guy to say, “You guys are crazy and I’m his crazy friend.”  For that part we had thoughts of some real famous guys, some long shots.  We sent the scripts out…I’m in CAA, it’s a big agency, so I have the ability to get scripts to people.  Just movie stars that would ensure getting way more money, like Matt Damon, he’s a baseball fan.  We sent it to him and we got nowhere with that.  But both Ralph Macchio and Scott Baio auditioned.  Like all these iconic Italian guys from the early ‘80s.  Scott Baio’s audition was funny, but we went with Ralph.  He is a very comforting piece of Americana.  He is great in the movie and he is a great guy.  The Seymour Cassell part, we are so thrilled with him.  But we thought of Rip Torn for that too.  But when you see Seymour’s performance, it is so fucking funny and he nails it.  The biggest laughs in the movie are his.  My favorite joke in the movie is his.  I don’t want to blow it for you but, “I ground into a double play and he comes up to me and goes, Artie watching you hitting into that double play makes me wish I was 35 years younger.  I go, “Why so you can kick my ass.”  He says, “No I can kick your ass right now.  But 35 years ago I would have lent your parent’s money for an abortion.”  That is obviously a very politically incorrect joke but he nails it.  It’s like boom, it’s a great line. (laughs)

With our time well over the allotted 20 minutes, a visibly exhausted Artie is whisked up to his hotel room to try and catch up on some much needed sleep.  Still, great guy that he is, Artie didn’t hesitate to sign my Dirty Work DVD.  I hope that bottle of Jack Daniels that I gave him before the interview helps him sleep through a grimy Cleveland night.

Artie Lange’s Beer League starring Artie Lange, Ralph Macchio, Anthony Desando (The Sopranos), Carla Buono (The Sopranos), Jerry Minor (Mr. Show, Lucky Louie), Laurie Metcalf (Rosanne), Seymour Cassel (Rushmore), Kamal Ahmed (The Jerky Boys), with appearances by Jim Breuer, Nick DiPaolo, Jim Florentine, and Tina Fey opens in limited release on Friday, September 15th in theaters in New York, New Jersey, Philadelphia and Cleveland, Ohio.  If it does well enough, it will release wide the following week.

And that concludes the second in my unintentional series of interviews with New Jersey guys.*

*Lou Taylor Pucci, April 2005.




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