He's
been a popular and successful author, penning short stories
and novels that have sold hundreds of thousands of copies
and spawned a thriving and loyal fan base.
He's been a movie director, bringing his horrific,
entirely unique creations to the screen and gathering a cult
following of devoted fans in the process.
He's even been a driving force behind a successful
(and frightening) video game.
He
is Clive Barker, and by any measure he is one of the great
modern masters of horror, a name arguably second only to Stephen
King in the world of multimedia terror.
Barker recently appeared at the Fangoria
Weekend of Horrors in Secaucus, New Jersey, where he talked
books, movies, Pinhead, painting, imagination, and why he
wouldn't trade his homosexuality for the world.
The creator of the Hellraiser mythology has been away from Hollywood for a few years now,
not because he doesn't have ideas – Barker rarely lacks
for ideas – but because, well, Hollywood is frustrating.
“Hollywood has driven me nuts in the last
few years. It's not an easy place to work right now,”
Barker said. “You have to fight so hard to get (a) movie
made that often you lose sight of why you wanted to make it
in the first place.”
Worse still, the ever shifting world of rights,
studios, and assorted legalese that comes with Hollywood means
fans of his creation may never get the treat so many want:
A Hellraiser boxed set. Barker said flat-out
such a set was unlikely. The rights, he said, are scattered
between different companies, making putting such a set together
a legal puzzle not likely to be tackled anytime soon.
It was this muddying of film's creative waters
that drove Barker away from shooting pictures and towards
painting them. And painting them drove him back to where he
began. Books.
Painting
A New World
Somewhere along the line, taken by his constant need
to create, Barker picked up a paintbrush and began
painting. One painting. Then another. And another. Before
long, dozens of paintings pouring from within him,
paintings that seemed to have something in common: a world.
And so was born Arabat.
The first novel in the Books of
Arabat series, called simply Arabat, introduces
readers to the rich new world he has created. Arabat is a
world – well, 25 worlds – separate from
our own, each existing within one hour of the day, and the
25th existing beyond time. Within these worlds are the kind
of vast and varying images, people and places fans of his
work have come to expect. Two dozen and one fantasy worlds
created ... with a paintbrush.
“In a way I seemed to be painting this world into existence,”
Barker said.
The Arabat novels – the second is Arabat:
Days of Magic, Nights of War - are marketed towards teen
readers, but they certainly contain their share of subversive
material, according to the author.
“A lot of the fans look at Arabat and say,
'My god, you're getting away with shit. Is this okay for kids?'”
Barker smiled. “I want to give my younger readers a
taste of the forbidden. We're really reaching out for a new
audience. It's exciting.”
The books combine Barker's own brand of storytelling with
dozens of paintings in each volume, the very paintings he
created when the world of Arabat first sprang into
existence.
“It's a synthesis of words and pictures that hopefully
will be like nothing you have ever seen before,” Barker
enthused.
Back To The Big Screen?
Words, paintings, those are things
this horror grandmaster can control. Film? Not so much. Barker
said he understands he can't control the film studios and
what they do to his characters. All he can do is keep creating.
“My duty right now is to paint and write and just get
along with what I know I can do,” he said.
But that doesn't mean the end for Clive Barker and film.
He is leading the formation of a new production company to
be devoted to horror films, horror films like they used to
be – films that don't toe the line in an effort to get
a PG-13 rating. With a modest budget and a willingness to
push the envelope, Barker figures he can help give horror
fans more of what they are clamoring for. Shocks. Chills.
And gore.
“I figured it was time to go back to the
smaller scale horror films,” he said.
The first film from his studio will be called The Plague. The premise? All the children
of the world one day mysteriously go to sleep ... and don't
wake up for 10 years. When they do finally wake up, they are
plagued with “strange appetites and desires.”
Knowing Barker, their appetite is not going to be for a nice
slice of apple pie.
Also on the film agenda is a title sure to make
Barker fans frenzied with excitement: Midnight Meat
Train. That's right, the fan favorite from his popular Books of Blood series is going to be made into a
film. A film with some blood in it.
“Very, very gory,” he laughed. “I
was surprised when I went back to read it. I said, 'Fuck me,
how did they let me do this?'”
That feeling is something he wants to capture
again. Shocking people. And, to the delight of his
biggest fans, it may be something he does with his best-known
character, in the way it all began for Barker – with
the written word.
The
Next Step For Pinhead
Clive Barker wants to make you
squirm and shudder and think, 'What in the hell is this all about?' before going to take a bath and
wash off the filth.
“When I made Hellraiser in my early 30s, I really wanted
to shock people ... I've really gotten back to that idea of
shocking the fuck out of people,” he laughed.
The shocking (and squirming and filth, no doubt) will come
in his next project, a book to be called The Scarlet Gospels,
and the idea is ... well, to kill off his best known character,
Pinhead. Kill him dead.
“I think it's time he dies a dignified death, somewhere
Dimension (Films, current holders of the Hellraiser property)
can't reach him,” he said. “Not that they won't
try.”
The book is poised to be one of the most over-the-top Barker
works to date, full of gore and evil and horror and anything
his twisted imagination can conjure. The steady stream of
creating won't stop there. After The Scarlet Gospels,
Barker plans to begin work on Absolute Midnight,
the third book in the Arabat saga, a series he is
excited to continue because it has drawn a whole new generation
into his brand of imagination.
“We're living in a new post-Harry Potter world. We're
living in a world where very young people are picking up books
again,” he said.
And that couldn't make him happier. You see, for Barker,
imagination stands above all.
Without Imagination, There
Is Nothing
For Barker, imagination is life. It
can open new worlds and change the way you think. Imagination,
no matter what you imagine, can only be a good thing, he said.
It's something he has believed – and lived - since childhood. As an overweight kid, a kid with glasses,
a kid scorned by other children, his imagination gave him
refuge, a place to escape from the real world.
“I had these secret friends as a child. I talked to
them all the time and they were very real to me,” Barker
said. “I believe our imaginations are tools for taking
us on the next evolutionary level. The more I can feed my
imagination ... into the collective consciousness, the happier
I am. I feel as if it is my duty. God gave me this weird imagination.”
“If I can jumpstart
people's imagination, that's an honor.”
Part of his active imagination comes from his always having
felt different than the people around him. And part of the
reason he has felt different, he said, is because he is homosexual.
Barker spoke with great frankness about his sexuality (he
has been openly gay for some years), saying it was a part
of what made him “other”. And he liked that.
“My sexuality became part of my differentness,”
he said. “I don't want straight culture to say, 'Okay,
you're part of us, we're all the same.' Fuck that. I don't
want that. No, I'm different.”
“I don't want to be part of the regular run of human
beings,” Barker said. His imagination, his sexuality,
his love for horror – it's what makes him who he is.
“I like this stuff and I'm not going to make any apologizes
for it. It's who I am.”
But then, he doesn't need to make any apologies. He's Clive
Barker.
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